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I've never seen anything like that before.

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Oh, my goodness.

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What is he doing?

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I have to look up and I saw a little black dot up there.

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Unleashed Nightcrawler.

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What the heck is happening?

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Oh, my God.

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Oh, my God.

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That's incredible.

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Are you seeing anything in the air right now?

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Camera 3 just fell over.

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We're on the way.

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There's definitely something weird going on out here.

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You know what? I just heard something.

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There's something moving.

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I don't want to be worried, but I'm starting to get there.

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Oh, my goodness.

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There's a flying saucer.

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Getting a series of lights right there.

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Oh, my God.

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What the heck is happening?

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Hello, hello.

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Hey, Ben. What's going on?

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Good.

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You guys ready to watch some videos?

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Always.

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Of course we are.

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All right.

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Let's start out with what I've got for you today.

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For the first time ever, we have two UFOs caught on video crashing into one another.

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It happened in Israel.

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This guy had seen one UFO splitting into two and sometimes three,

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so he decides to take out his video camera, and this is what he captures.

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You see this object here?

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You'll see something moving from left to right.

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Wow.

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And then you see kind of a ball.

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Definitely an explosion.

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It's not necessarily a collision, but these things are just joining again.

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That is a possible theory.

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You know, lately they've been talking a lot about these kind of organic type UFOs.

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It's a process of mitosis.

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Cellular division, one cell becomes two, and what's to say that it just wasn't reverse mitosis.

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You know, it's in Israel, the Middle East, there's a lot of war going on right there.

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Who's to say that this wasn't a plane and that wasn't a missile shooting it down?

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Right, because when they collide, there's a big burst of light, and then they go vertically down.

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Bradley pulls it down.

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Did they go out and look for any debris after the crash?

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In fact, they went out the very next day, but investigators found no wreckage whatsoever.

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What do you guys think about it being faked or being real?

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I'd say it's an actual event that's occurring, so that's a fact, but it would not be in hoaxed.

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You think it's worth going out?

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I think we should pass with this one. I pass on this one.

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What's up with mine?

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Okay, guys, this is a ghost case coming all the way from New York.

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There was an older woman, her name is Rose Benevuto, and she got into a horrific accident.

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She literally walked away from the car accident with no scratches.

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Untouched, completely fine.

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Later on, there was a photographer, her name is Sharon Bu.

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She had taken several pictures of the wreckage.

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This is the photograph.

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And she... Oh, wow.

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She walked away. That's her car.

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Unbelievable.

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One of the photographs came out very curiously.

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There was an image of a figure.

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Now, this woman, Rose, swears that this was her guardian angel.

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Wow. It looks more angelic.

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It does look angelic.

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This is shot on film, not digitally.

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It's a photograph.

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And the odd thing is that it also came out in the negative, which is really hard to fake.

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You don't think it could be a refraction of light, though?

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I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be hoaxed, but is there some other reason on why that light coming off like that?

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Well, Chilan, you know a bit about photography, right?

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Could a light like that actually appear in the negative?

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I mean, a lot of photographers have actually overexposed their negatives to get an effect like that.

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You know, I'd almost want to not even investigate and just let myself believe that's what happened.

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I feel like I've had guardian angels or powers at be saved my life numerous times,

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only I wish I had a photo like that to prove it.

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So who thinks we should maybe look at this a little bit later?

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I think that we could investigate it a little bit further,

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but for now we can set it aside and see what else we have to look at.

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Okay, let's move on.

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So Bill, tell me about your case today.

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Well, this particular video has been making the round to some of the paranormal conferences,

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and it's gotten really popular.

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This was recorded in Fresno in 2007.

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Let me queue it up because I think it speaks for itself.

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There's a creature coming from the top left of the screen.

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I don't know what it is, but it's not like any of the other cryptoids or bigfoot or anything else we've seen before.

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Look, you can almost see the little legs at the bottom.

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And you can see its shadow as well.

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It's very long.

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Notice that it has a head.

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I've never seen anything like this before.

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It's really, it's weird.

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I don't know what else to call it.

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Now, what's this one coming in here?

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Oh my goodness!

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What is he doing?

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What is he doing?

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Anatomically speaking, I've never seen anything that looks like either of these figures before.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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Where was it walking toward?

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I don't know where it was walking towards, but, you know, in response to what you're saying too,

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I forwarded a copy of this clip to Animal Control in Fresno.

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They have never seen anything like this, and nothing else has been reported like it in the area.

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The reason why I set up the camera, because there were dogs barking in the area,

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and so he thought maybe there was burglars or prowlers coming through.

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So he put a surveillance camera up.

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When he woke up, he saw it on his camera,

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rewound the VHS VCR, and taped it right off the screen.

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Now, unfortunately, these surveillance VCRs will re-record over themselves.

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So what was recorded on the camcorder is the only footage that exists.

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The gentleman who recorded it is now reaching out to the paranormal community for help.

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I like it.

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I think it's like nothing we've ever done before.

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I think this could be a contender for us.

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I agree. We've got a very compelling video.

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We have a credible witness.

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Plus, we've got an actual physical, tangible location we can do a lot of experiments with.

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Why don't we see what else we have? Let's keep it on the list of contenders.

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Austin, I think you got something.

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I got in contact with a gentleman named Mark Preston.

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He was with his family on 4th of July weekend.

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This happened in 2009.

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They're in the backyard just having a barbecue.

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They look up. They see this object.

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Austin, where was this shot?

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Lake Havasu, Arizona.

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A lot of activity in that area.

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Oh, it's been a hotbed of activity.

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All right, let's take a look.

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Let's see if I can get it on camera.

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All right, there it is. I got it on camera.

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There's a cloud.

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And there's a flying saucer.

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It's literally saucer shaped with a disc and then a little globe in the center.

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Well, the way it's shining, it looks metallic.

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Okay, and one thing I really like about this is I truly feel their reactions are genuine.

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They're trying to figure out what it is.

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What's interesting to me too is that it looks like it has hard edges.

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It's metallic. It's reflecting the sunlight.

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It's not often that you get such a sharp image with high reflectivity like this is.

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Wow, look at that.

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What do you guys think?

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You think we have enough to go on on this one?

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I think there's a lot to go for there.

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I do feel that we have so many things weighing for us in this case.

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I would love to go check it out.

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I think that we should keep this on the list of contenders.

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Well, Cheethan, it's your turn.

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All right, so I have a video that was sent in from a family.

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They put it online.

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It has over four million hits and it's a ghost video.

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Now the Underwood family went to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania for a vacation

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and they were just hanging out at night and this is what they shot.

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Take a look.

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He's moved it, right?

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Right there.

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Right there on the left.

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Are you seeing that as well?

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Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, especially in this area,

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this is called Triangular Field and more than 50,000 soldiers died

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while going into Civil War here.

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So a lot of people actually saw this video

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and thought that these are the ghosts of the soldiers.

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The shadow figure or ghost is following the same trajectory every time.

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It's that same movement, same place.

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It just keeps moving right there.

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Exactly, it is the same movement.

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you wouldn't just keep seeing it doing this in the exact same position.

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It kind of looked like lights to me, like sort of headlights

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and there are some paved roads out there for tourists to drive on.

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So how does everyone feel about this case?

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Is there enough there that we can try and replicate it

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It's not at the top of my list, but I would consider it maybe later.

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Yeah, I agree with Austin.

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Well, if it's not at the top of our list right now,

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which cases that we've seen today do you think make the top three?

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I really like night crawlers.

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I'm really liking Havasu.

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I think you guys know which one I like, the ghost car angel.

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It's a very compelling story, however, I'm a little worried

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that there's not much there to investigate.

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Yeah, all we have is a picture.

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We don't have any video to go by.

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I like Havasu too.

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Havasu sounds like fun.

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It seems like we can do some really good stuff out there.

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Could I witness good video?

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Fresno and Havasu is what I'm hearing.

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I think we have our two cases.

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Bill, what do you say that you take Larry and Gael with you to Fresno?

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Night crawlers.

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All right, and I will go with Austin and Shilan and we'll go to Havasu.

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Coming up on Fact or Faked Paranormal Files.

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I need to find out something.

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He heard his dogs barking.

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He came out.

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That's when he saw the two beings.

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There's something moving.

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There's more than one.

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I see it right there, right above the cloud line.

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You catch a shimmering back and forth.

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This particular video has been making the rounds of the paranormal conferences.

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I got in contact with a gentleman named Mark Preston.

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He was with his family.

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They see this object.

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I think we have our two cases.

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We're on the way to Fresno now to meet Jose, who was the witness that recorded the night crawlers in his yard.

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We're fortunate that we have Gael with us because she speaks fluent Spanish and Jose speaks very little English.

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She's going to be our translator.

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Much gusto, Larry.

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Much gusto.

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Gracias, Gael.

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Gracias por invitarnos a su casa.

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Gracias a ustedes por venir.

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Nos puede explicar qué pasó exactamente aquí, por favor.

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Sí, pero como las 12.

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It was about 12 a.m. when it happened.

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Estaban los perros ladrando y yo salí para pasar.

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He heard his dogs barking.

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He came out to look at the area and scan.

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Pero yo sé para atrás.

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He didn't see anything.

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He ran back inside.

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That's when he saw the two beings on the video.

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Can he show us where he thinks they may have entered and exited the yard?

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Yo pensé que entraron desde ahí por aquí, como a esta dirección.

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Por aquí.

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So the gate was closed.

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Wow, that's very, very thin.

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Yeah.

254
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Se mira que entra por la reja, o no?

255
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No.

256
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You can't see it actually come through.

257
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It's too dark.

258
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Well, we're going to try to help in any way we can.

259
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Perfecto.

260
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Gracias, ¿pueso?

261
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A ustedes.

262
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If it is a host, I have no idea how he created it.

263
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And that's what we're going to try to simulate tonight.

264
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We're going to put our own camera up in the corner where it originally was

265
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and try to recreate the video.

266
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I've got all the important landmarks on this front yard

267
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are hitting just about the spots they are on the original video.

268
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One of the most popular theories about the Nightcrawler case is that it was a hoax.

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A lot of people believe that maybe it was a kid dressed like one of these creatures.

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In order to put this theory to rest, we're going to do just that.

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I've enlisted the help of a neighborhood child.

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We're going to dress him up like a Nightcrawler.

273
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And have him walk across the lawn in the same path that the creature did.

274
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We're marking the path that we observed the figure in the video move.

275
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So we'll walk here.

276
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From here in this path.

277
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Yeah, that looks really good.

278
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And I want you to kick out your feet like this.

279
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Perfect.

280
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There's no way that a small child like that's going to be able to walk a perfect beeline

281
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like this creature is.

282
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You ready, Dominic?

283
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Initially, the aliens walk.

284
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Okay, there he is.

285
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What we're seeing here with Dominic is not where we're seeing over here in Jose's video.

286
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This is obviously a person and I don't know what that is, but that's not a child.

287
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You did a great job.

288
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Thank you very much.

289
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Let's move on to a new experiment.

290
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This time something more mechanical.

291
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I've got a mechanical Nightcrawler.

292
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What I've done here is connected a couple of turntables to some electric motors.

293
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This will spin this way and the leg will come up and then it sort of drops back.

294
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Good job, Phil.

295
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Thank you.

296
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The idea is that if there's a puppet that perhaps it was moved across the yard with like a pulley system.

297
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We're going to put it on the rig.

298
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We're going to pull the puppet across the yard and hopefully we'll have more success with this experiment than we did with the first one.

299
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This is looking pretty taut.

300
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This looks really good.

301
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Yeah, once we have it in motion, that's the real test here.

302
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I'm going to go ahead and power up Nightcrawler.

303
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And we are ready to set go whenever you are.

304
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And I'm going to begin to pull.

305
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All right.

306
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Well, it's moving easy enough.

307
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Oh my gosh, look at that thing.

308
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It's just so awesome.

309
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It's just so wobbly.

310
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It definitely has a sloppy motion compared to that graceful movement, the gate.

311
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How did that look?

312
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I don't think we've got our Nightcrawler.

313
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What didn't match?

314
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Did not have the same motion that the creature in Jose's video had.

315
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Okay, let's set back up and perhaps put a cover on it and see how that works.

316
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Copy that. Let's give it a shot.

317
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In the case of the second creature, it's got almost like a covering on its body.

318
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So I've got this.

319
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I'm going to put it over its head.

320
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I'm interested to see how it's going to look once we put a sheet over it.

321
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And you won't see those legs.

322
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You won't see that head.

323
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If you guys are ready, I'm going to go ahead and power it up.

324
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Copy that. We're ready to go.

325
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Okay, the legs are in motion. I'm going to begin the pulley.

326
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I think we've upgraded quite a bit.

327
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I mean, look at the fabric and how it's blowing on the legs.

328
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Yes.

329
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It's similar to the original video.

330
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It's still swaying and really inconsistent in the way it's moving.

331
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Hey guys, how'd that look?

332
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000
That's actually a lot better.

333
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,000
The only thing that's not matching up is just that there's this side to side sway

334
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that the creature in the video we saw did not have.

335
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What I could do is actually just take it off that cable, off the pulley system.

336
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I attached that puppet to a stick and walk it across very carefully, the lawn.

337
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I think that will solve our stability issue.

338
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And we have access to great editing software back at the office.

339
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I could easily remove myself from this video and...

340
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And it'll be like you were never there.

341
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000
Exactly.

342
00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,000
I think that's a great idea.

343
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000
You're in position. Go ahead and start walking across the yard.

344
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,000
It's still kind of rocking. This way it's pivoting when it touches the ground.

345
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It's still too difficult, Bill.

346
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000
I don't think that this is a puppet that we're seeing in Jose's video.

347
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000
I don't think we'll know for certain until we get it into the edit room

348
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000
and try to remove Larry from the video.

349
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,000
I say we try and find out if maybe this could be something that's alive that's living in this area.

350
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Something's unexplainable in this video.

351
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,000
And if it wasn't a hoax, it's quite possible these creatures may be nearby.

352
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,000
Just north of here is an expansive watered area.

353
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000
We're going to pack up and head over there now.

354
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000
Maybe this could be something that's alive that's living in this area.

355
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000
Just north of here is an expansive watered area.

356
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000
It's quite possible these creatures may be nearby.

357
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,000
Why don't you go ahead and make a horseshoe shape with the cameras around this plateau we're on.

358
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000
We can get one over here, two, three and four.

359
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000
Sounds good. I'll get started with the first one.

360
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,000
Another box of tape here, I got two more boxes of tape here so we're set up for hours.

361
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000
Do you see my camera set up yet?

362
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000
We can't see anything on our end.

363
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,000
We're trying to hook up the other power source, apparently the one we had up has some problems.

364
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000
I'm going to try.

365
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000
Can you read me?

366
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,000
Copy that.

367
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000
I'm going to need a new battery for the walkie actually.

368
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000
There's some weird stuff going on tonight.

369
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,000
I went through two walkie batteries in ten minutes.

370
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000
We have a battery that usually feeds all our cameras.

371
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,000
That didn't turn on. I mean there's definitely something weird going on out here.

372
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000
Alright it's up and ready to go.

373
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,000
This area shouldn't have anything that's going to be interfering with our gear, at least not that I know of.

374
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,000
We're going to see if there's a source we haven't documented that's causing all of our equipment to fail.

375
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:29,000
We're going to do an EMF sweep and try to get baseline readings and if there's very conduit that we don't know about that's not documented

376
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000
then we're going to use the metal detector to see if we can pick up that pipe.

377
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We'll see you in a bit.

378
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000
Alright.

379
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000
Here it is.

380
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,000
Still no change in the meter reading.

381
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000
We're still looking at the perimeter and still investigating the tree line.

382
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000
You know what's kind of odd?

383
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000
What?

384
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000
My metal detector went out.

385
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000
It went out?

386
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000
Yeah. This had a new battery in it.

387
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Are you serious?

388
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000
Yeah. Yeah. This thing's out now too.

389
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,000
My walkie talkie died. The IRM out of this won't power up and now my metal detector won't work.

390
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000
Something in this area is definitely causing electronics to fail.

391
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000
I don't know what it is.

392
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,000
Maybe it's the creatures in the area that Jose reported that's somehow causing our equipment to malfunction.

393
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000
Anything on here?

394
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000
Still no spikes, no change in the reading.

395
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000
Did you guys hear that?

396
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000
I do hear that.

397
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000
Lara, do you hear that? It's like a hype.

398
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000
Let's go, let's go over there.

399
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Run.

400
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Hey guys, do you happen to be next to Camera 4?

401
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000
No, why? What's the issue with Camera 4?

402
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000
Camera 4 just went out.

403
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,000
I'm not sure why I didn't know if maybe you guys were close to it and maybe bumped the cord or something.

404
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000
You know what?

405
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000
I think we should be looking for something that's organic.

406
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,000
We should break out the thermal camera and we should see if we can spot something that's alive and moving.

407
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,000
It just came back. I'm not sure if it's something that's touching it.

408
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000
I can't see anything with it right now.

409
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000
I didn't see anything before it went out.

410
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000
So I'm not sure what it is.

411
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000
Here's your thermal imager.

412
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000
Okay.

413
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000
Great.

414
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Monitor 4 just went out again.

415
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Again?

416
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Yeah, I just went out right now.

417
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Camera 4 just went out again.

418
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000
You know what? I'm just heading out there right now.

419
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000
Yeah, keep me up to date with the radio.

420
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000
Alright, that's really interesting.

421
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000
We were all here.

422
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,000
I mean they were right here and for some reason Camera 4 just went out.

423
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Okay, there it is.

424
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000
I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary.

425
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000
Something just fell in front of our camera.

426
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000
Camera 3 just fell over completely.

427
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
You say by 3 now?

428
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000
Yeah, our whole Camera 3 just fell over.

429
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,000
We're on the way.

430
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000
What the heck is happening?

431
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000
I don't see anything but Camera 3 is down.

432
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000
I don't want to be worried, but I'm starting to get there.

433
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000
You know what? I just heard something on the trees beyond it.

434
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000
So, Lauer, how much of you can see it?

435
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000
There's something at that tree line over there.

436
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000
I see you. I see where you're pointing.

437
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
I don't see anything.

438
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000
There's something moving through those trees over there.

439
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000
There's something moving. There's something moving, Bill.

440
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Look. Look. Look.

441
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Actually, it's more than one. It's more than one.

442
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,000
Here's your thermal imager.

443
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,000
Great.

444
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000
There's something moving through those trees over there.

445
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Actually, it's more than one.

446
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000
It's more than one.

447
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000
It looks like it's moving somewhere from the tree.

448
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000
You know what it looks like.

449
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000
They're gone.

450
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000
They're gone.

451
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000
I'm going to head over there.

452
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000
This is where they must have gone.

453
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Look at this.

454
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000
Something has been walking this path, and it's going right to the water hole.

455
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
There was some sort of disturbance.

456
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000
It looks like it's, you know, like something was treading through here.

457
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
It's close to 5 a.m. at this point.

458
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000
We've been here all night.

459
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000
I'm not quite sure what else we could do.

460
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Well, I mean, I'm with you.

461
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,000
I don't know if we can accomplish anything else while we're out here.

462
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
I think we should take the evidence we've gathered so far,

463
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000
and we should pack it up for the night.

464
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000
My gosh, you guys were out there forever.

465
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Well, a lot was going on.

466
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Yo, I know. I could see it. I could hear it. I could feel it.

467
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
There was so much that was going on just right here.

468
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000
I can't even imagine what was going on out there with you guys.

469
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000
It felt like we were the ones being torred with,

470
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000
and we were the ones that were being targeted,

471
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000
not the other way around.

472
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
There was definitely some movement back there,

473
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
so we have a lot of tape to review.

474
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,000
I say we pack up and go.

475
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Most definitely. Let's get out of here.

476
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000
Agreed.

477
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Long trip, huh?

478
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000
Yeah.

479
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
So Fresno team, tell me about your investigation.

480
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
I started off with a really good witness interview,

481
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,000
Jose, the homeowner.

482
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Did Jose seem like an incredible witness to you?

483
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Most certainly. He was a great witness.

484
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000
I was able to run voice analysis on this interview,

485
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
and I want you guys to see the results.

486
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000
Ben, if you could cue that up for me.

487
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000
All right.

488
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000
All right, he says he heard his dogs barking.

489
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000
He went, looked out his window, didn't see anything.

490
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000
This whole interview is just full of truth.

491
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000
There is some stress. There is excitement through this interview,

492
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,000
but as we were interviewing him, he was literally shaking.

493
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,000
What he thinks he saw, he doesn't know what it is,

494
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000
and it does scare him to death.

495
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000
So you don't think that this could have been a hoax at all?

496
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
If it was, he wasn't in on it.

497
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000
Well, if it's not paranormal and it is a hoax,

498
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000
then somebody must have pulled it on Jose.

499
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
So we put that to the test,

500
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000
and we came up with a couple of ideas

501
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
on how we could replicate the video.

502
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
So one of them, the simplest one,

503
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000
was that it was just simply a child walking across the yard.

504
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,000
And even though we found a kid that was about the right height,

505
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000
it was just simply too big.

506
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000
So next was like, maybe it was a puppet.

507
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000
So we built a mechanized puppet,

508
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000
and we moved it on a pulley system across the yard.

509
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
The problem with using the pulley system

510
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
is that the puppet tended to sort of bounce

511
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
because of the length of the rope.

512
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,000
Then we moved on to, well, maybe Larry can sort of walk

513
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,000
the mechanized puppet across the yard on a pole.

514
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,000
So we did that, and then I removed Larry's image in the Yedda Bay.

515
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,000
As you can see, despite our best efforts,

516
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
we really weren't able to replicate the video.

517
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000
And after we tried all three experiments,

518
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000
and we still couldn't get an answer,

519
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000
we decided to do a night investigation,

520
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
and that's when things really started to get strange.

521
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Within an hour, my walkie batteries died,

522
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
and then our camera started to go out.

523
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
We had our thermal camera with us,

524
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000
and we turned it on, and here's what we got on camera.

525
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Once we saw these in the thermal camera,

526
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
we realized we're looking at two creatures.

527
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Maybe they were deer.

528
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
We did follow them as far as we could.

529
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000
It ended up leading to a small natural lake,

530
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
and that's where we lost sight of them.

531
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
It could be some sort of indigenous creature

532
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
that we still haven't discovered.

533
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Based on the apparent truthfulness of our witness, Jose,

534
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000
and based on the fact we have something on our mind,

535
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
we found a little bit of a mystery.

536
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
We found a little bit of a mystery.

537
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000
In fact, we have something unidentified moving out there.

538
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000
We can't say right now that we know this was faked.

539
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000
You weren't able to prove the video was hoaxed,

540
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000
so I say this is unexplainable.

541
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Great job, guys.

542
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Tell us about Havasu.

543
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Well, as you know,

544
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Chilan and Austin and I went to Lake Havasu

545
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
after watching Mark Preston's footage

546
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,000
of a flying saucer that was filmed over his house

547
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000
July 4th of 2009.

548
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,000
And Mr. Preston was very perplexed at what he saw.

549
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
So it went out to Havasu, and this is what happened.

550
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000
This lake is beautiful.

551
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
You know, it's also one of the number one locations

552
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
for UFO sightings in all of Arizona.

553
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000
There were eight sightings that were recorded in 2008.

554
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
In 2009, there were 22 sightings.

555
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000
That's a triple jump right there, numbers.

556
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
How you doing? I'm Ben.

557
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Nice to meet you.

558
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000
We'd like to check out, you know, where you shot this thing.

559
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
What were you guys doing before you started filming?

560
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Kind of take us through exactly what was going on that afternoon.

561
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
We were just getting rid of barbecue back here,

562
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
just kind of chatting, and I happened to look up at the sky,

563
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
and I saw a little black dot up there in the clouds.

564
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Kind of afraid to say the word flying saucer,

565
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000
because it was like a perfect one, I'm thinking.

566
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000
We were seeing the same thing.

567
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000
So it was kind of, is that really what we're seeing?

568
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
What part of the sky did you first see it?

569
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
It was just probably straight up there,

570
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000
probably about 4,000 feet up through the telephone wires.

571
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
And where did you last see it?

572
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,000
About 20 minutes later, it was up around up in the front of the house.

573
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
It had gone all the way around by the mountains

574
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000
and was probably up about 6,000 feet, I'd say.

575
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000
And that's when you see the commercial jet flying over.

576
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000
There goes a jet right by it.

577
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
This is the camera that I used on it.

578
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000
I think it's okay if I take that camera and conduct some experiments.

579
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
I think we could set up the glass right about here.

580
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Perfect.

581
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Even though I believe Mark and his family are telling the truth,

582
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000
we have to fulfill our due diligence and look at this from all angles.

583
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Our first experiment is going to be a reflection test.

584
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
What we're doing right now is we have the frame built.

585
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000
I'm glad you guys are doing this because I barely passed wood shop.

586
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,000
We need to angle it so that we are perpendicular right to where he was looking out.

587
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000
What we're going to do is take an object similar to the UFO

588
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
and try to reflect it off of a pane of glass.

589
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Just set it down on the lip.

590
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Perfect.

591
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,000
That's it.

592
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000
There it is.

593
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,000
What we're going to do with the shadow box is put this flying saucer in the middle of it

594
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,000
and then take a search light to shine against the saucer,

595
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
which will reflect back towards the pane of glass.

596
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
We're taking Mark's exact camera here, the one that he used.

597
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Do you see that?

598
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Grab it.

599
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Can you record that?

600
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,000
I see it right there.

601
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Right above the cloud line.

602
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000
You can see the cloud line that's right above it.

603
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000
You catch a shimmering back and forth.

604
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Where are you guys seeing it?

605
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000
See the long cloud?

606
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
The plane where it looks like a tabletop right above it.

607
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000
It's going real small.

608
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000
You can barely see it.

609
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000
It's floating away.

610
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:16,000
I saw a little black dot up there in the cloud.

611
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000
I see it right there.

612
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Right above the cloud line.

613
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Where are you guys seeing it?

614
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
While setting up our experiment, and as we're looking up in the sky,

615
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
I just caught an object floating.

616
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Can't really tell exactly what it is.

617
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000
I'm not seeing anything.

618
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000
You zoomed it in?

619
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Yeah.

620
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
I'm going to find it.

621
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Zoom it up as close as possible.

622
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
Oh, I'm almost losing it.

623
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Describe what it was.

624
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000
It was white.

625
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000
It looked like it was just floating with the wind projections.

626
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,000
It honestly looked like what it was doing, just being pulled along.

627
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
It was almost like a square shape,

628
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
and it just kind of came up along the ridgeline of the clouds

629
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000
and just took off and kind of disappeared fairly quickly.

630
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Let's keep our eyes open and let's get back to finishing this.

631
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Yeah, definitely.

632
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
So we're using the actual camera that Mark Preston used

633
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
to film this object.

634
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000
We're trying to replicate it as best as we can.

635
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
We have this pane glass window.

636
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
We're going to take our UFO object,

637
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,000
hang it in the middle here,

638
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
and shine a light towards the object,

639
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000
which will in turn reflect it back towards the window.

640
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
So why don't you bring in the object?

641
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Start back here.

642
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Start bringing it up.

643
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000
I will hit it with this.

644
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Now, I am not actually on camera.

645
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,000
I'm not seeing anything of any type of reflection yet.

646
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
I don't think that it's dark enough,

647
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
or these lights are strong enough.

648
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
The only time you see it is as soon as you get it into the sunlight.

649
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,000
In the actual video, you can tell that the object is straight solid.

650
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
This is so transparent.

651
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
We're not able to make it look solid,

652
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000
nor anything like the video.

653
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000
When the Preston shot this video, they actually saw that UFO.

654
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000
It doesn't mean it was a UFO.

655
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,000
It still could have been a balloon,

656
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
or an object just floating in the sky,

657
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000
for all we know as of right now,

658
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
but I do definitely agree it was not this.

659
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
It is very apparent we are dealing with the UFO.

660
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000
It's either an extraterrestrial unidentified flying object,

661
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
or an unbelievably fake object.

662
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
The most important thing I grabbed out of this

663
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
is the fact that I truly believe the Preston's now.

664
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000
It was not a hoax coming from their end.

665
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
It could have still been a hoax from somebody else,

666
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
possibly a balloon, or something in the sky.

667
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
We are going to do a couple more experiments

668
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
to see if there was another possible explanation.

669
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000
If this was a hoax, it had to be launched from somewhere down by the lake.

670
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
So I say we go down there,

671
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
and we've launched something up in there for ourselves.

672
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
It looks like where the Preston saw the UFO

673
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,000
is on the southern end of the Havasu State Park.

674
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
And it's actually a safe area

675
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
where we can launch something into the sky as well.

676
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,000
I'll stay back here with Mark's camera,

677
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
and I'll try to set something up that looks similar

678
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000
to how he was filming.

679
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000
And we'll try to get the thing up between one and 3,000 feet.

680
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Are we ready to go?

681
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Yeah.

682
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000
All right.

683
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000
We secured an open parking lot,

684
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,000
which is right below where the actual sightings were seen.

685
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000
We're going to set up a big balloon.

686
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,000
We're going to launch it off in the sky

687
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,000
to see if we can simulate the actual event that occurred.

688
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,000
So we can hook up this balloon to a, hopefully,

689
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
heavy enough object so we don't float away.

690
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Now, these balloons are really easily found on the Internet.

691
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:37,000
These aren't very expensive, just a couple hundred dollars.

692
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Hey, Ben.

693
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000
We're really excited over here.

694
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
This balloon is getting airborne.

695
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Excellent.

696
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Let me know when you've got the balloon to a sufficient height

697
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,000
so I can start looking for it.

698
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,000
The wind down here, how this UFO balloon is already pulling,

699
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,000
it's going to go crazy up there.

700
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Hey, Chee-Lan.

701
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000
The wind is really starting to pick up up here.

702
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000
How is it down where you guys are?

703
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000
I'm getting a reading of five to ten miles an hour of wind down here.

704
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,000
Didn't Mr. Preston say that that was what the conditions were on his day?

705
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000
I believe that's true.

706
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000
We're working on the situation with this plane overhead.

707
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000
That could be a problem.

708
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:25,000
We've got to get ahold of somebody at the airport to alert the banner to our,

709
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:31,000
who's up ahead over our area because we obviously don't want him to run into a UFO

710
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
he didn't expect to be there.

711
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000
I just wanted to make sure that someone who's manning the Unicom radios

712
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:45,000
can advise this banner toer that we're going to be working probably right in his altitude.

713
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,000
I just called the Lake Havasu City Airport.

714
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000
It doesn't look like we're going to be able to get that plane to move.

715
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,000
So we can't launch the balloon as high as we originally wanted.

716
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000
We can still put it up in the air too, we get.

717
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
One, two, three.

718
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Whoa, alright.

719
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Alright, that was good though.

720
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
That was good. I wanted to take off.

721
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Well, you can tell that the wind is blowing this down

722
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,000
and because it is so huge it's twenty feet and the wind is pushing it down.

723
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000
You know what? Why don't we go ahead and get the rope set up

724
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000
so we can actually let it see how high we can get this thing going.

725
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,000
We added tether to the car so we can make sure it's inflated and it's going to take flight.

726
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Now that we know it wants to take off, we're going to go ahead and attach a thousand foot nylon rope to it

727
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000
to see how we can get it up in the sky.

728
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Jelon for Ben?

729
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000
Yes, go ahead Jelon.

730
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Ben, we're going to launch the balloon right now.

731
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Copy that. I will begin rolling.

732
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Let it go, Austin.

733
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000
Oh my god, that's incredible.

734
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,000
It is going.

735
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,000
It looks so great.

736
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,000
It's flying so far above that and I love the movement.

737
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,000
It looks just like the video that Mark Preston shot.

738
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
The way that it's floating and turning.

739
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Benny, you catching anything right now?

740
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000
I see something.

741
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
We have the object in sight.

742
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Now using Mark Preston's camera, I'm at full zoom and it looks almost exactly about the same size

743
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000
he was looking at when he was at full zoom.

744
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000
I'm quite impressed that the reflection of the surface is really similar to the video.

745
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,000
It almost looks like I'm looking at a solid rigid metallic surface.

746
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,000
Hey guys.

747
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Hey you.

748
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,000
This is how to look from your side.

749
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000
It was pretty good.

750
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Yeah.

751
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,000
I mean it was really good.

752
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,000
From where I was, I set it up as the original video and it looked like it had the same reflectivity.

753
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000
It was getting kind of the same tumbling as the original object.

754
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,000
It wasn't as rigid as the other object, but I think we're getting really close.

755
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Our balloon experiment was pretty convincing, but we still need to find a witness who saw that it was a UFO and saw that it was a balloon.

756
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Lake Havasu during July 4th weekend, there are tens of thousands of visitors, so there had to be at least one witness who also saw the UFO.

757
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,000
So Austin and I are going to canvas the area and Ben's going to go ahead and call some city departments.

758
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Hopefully between both of our efforts, we will find something out.

759
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
A family in Lake Havasu actually saw a flying saucer in the area.

760
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Did you see anything like that last year?

761
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
I didn't know.

762
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000
No, I mean no.

763
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000
No?

764
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Works and recreation.

765
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Yes, I was calling about an incident that happened July 4th of 2009.

766
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,000
I was wondering if anyone had reported seeing a UFO type object.

767
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000
We've got a ranger here who said that he had seen something like that.

768
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000
That's great.

769
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Can I talk to someone about it?

770
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Oh, no.

771
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000
It looks just like the video.

772
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,000
I was wondering if anyone had reported seeing a UFO type object.

773
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000
We've got a ranger here who said that he had seen something like that.

774
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
It was actually a very successful investigation.

775
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
We got to try some experiments.

776
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
The first one did not go so well.

777
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000
It just showed up transparent.

778
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000
It just wasn't giving us any results we wanted.

779
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Experiment number two went a lot better.

780
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000
We hoisted this balloon that was huge, 20 feet in diameter, into the sky.

781
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Our flying saucer balloon experiment was very convincing.

782
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
And its movement almost matched the original Preston footage.

783
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,000
But it was Ben's last discovery that really pushed our investigation over the top.

784
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,000
I called the Lake Havasu State Park Rangers office

785
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000
and got a hold of ranger Mike Stigler.

786
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Just watch what happened.

787
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,000
I was out at our maintenance building doing some paperwork.

788
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
And I heard over the radio,

789
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
hey, we have a UFO sighting in Lot 4.

790
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
So I went outside and I looked towards Lot 4.

791
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
And I probably looked up probably about 1,000, 1,500 feet.

792
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:18,000
I saw what appeared to be a silver-grey UFO 1950 sci-fi shaped balloon floating in the air.

793
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,000
What? Oh my God.

794
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Officer Mike Stigler actually saw the balloon shortly after it took off.

795
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,000
He watched it go up. He watched it over the course of several minutes.

796
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,000
The family that recorded this, they didn't even bother to call authorities maybe to see what it was.

797
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Maybe an explanation for it.

798
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Well, I think they were as puzzled as anyone else.

799
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
They wanted to know if other people had seen it, but not everyone thinks to call.

800
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
They even said during the video they're like, is it a UFO?

801
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Is it a motorized vehicle? Someone's flying remotely? Or is it a balloon?

802
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,000
They had no idea. Did the ranger have any idea where the balloon may have come from?

803
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
As a matter of fact, he did.

804
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
I talked to some of the other rangers and they gave me information.

805
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000
They were also filming a movie out here at that time and it was possible it was from one of their vendors during the filming.

806
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
You went and watched this video online, correct? Correct.

807
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,000
That video, is there any question in your mind that that was a different object?

808
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Nope, that was exactly what I observed.

809
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000
What do you guys think?

810
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
I think the answer is pretty obvious. Fake.

811
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000
This is not a UFO.

812
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Nothing extraterrestrial about it. Just an extra expensive balloon.

813
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
This is not a UFO. It's now identified.